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 Post subject: Idiom: propose+ to be VS propose+subjuntive?
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:32 am 
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Hi, dear MGMAT staff,

I have an idiom problem about the word: "propose".

In ManhattanGMAT SC 4th, page 114, the word "propose" is said to be used only in the Subjunctive structure. However, in page 163, it is said that "propose" can be used in both Subjunctive structure and "to do" structure, there is a sentense:" The attorneys proposed to meet for lunch."

Moreover, I find that the word "suggest" has the same problem. In page 114, it is said to be used only in Subjunctive structure. However, in page 169, "suggest" is use in a sentense "A study suggests that more work IS needed (or will be needed)."

Could you clarify that?

Thanks for your reply!

Regards.

rx.


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 Post subject: Re: Idiom: propose+ to be VS propose+subjuntive?
 Post Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:12 pm 
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Hi rx_11,

I can see how our presentation might have been confusing. The lists on page 114 dictate how to use verbs when they are being applied in a "bossy" way, i.e. to tell someone to do something. If I propose or suggest that *you* do something, I need to use the command subjunctive:

I propose that you send me a gift.
I suggested that you be given a raise.

However, if I am using these words to describe something else, including an action I myself will undertake, then the command subjunctive is not required. The attorneys mentioned on pg. 163 are proposing that they themselves go to lunch. You can also simply propose a thing (a noun), with no additonal structure needed:

I propose a toast.
I propose a truce between our nations.

The sentence with "suggest" reveals a similar issue. In this case, we need to distinguish between suggesting a) that someone do something and b that something is true. The sentence on 169 is an example of b. The study indicates that more work is needed.

If we switched that sentence to the command subjunctive (A study suggests that more work be needed), we would be changing the meaning. The sentence would now mean that more work *should* be needed, even though it is not needed now.

Let's contrast these sentences:

a) I suggest that more privileges be given to senior employees.
b) I suggest that more privileges are given to senior employees.

In a), I want more privileges to be given. In b), I am saying that more privileges are already given. Both sentences are correct as written, but they convey different meanings.

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Dmitry Farber
Manhattan GMAT Instructor


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