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 Post subject: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:43 pm 
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His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in what are now temperate areas

(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in what are now temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate

Would the experts please explain this one. Led Louis to propose...is in the past. So shouldn't the ice-age be before that. Hence, an ice-age had existed before he proposed. I am confused between A and B.

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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:26 pm 
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Came across this problem as well. Can you explain the past perfect simple past split?

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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:08 am 
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stevefeiner5 wrote:
Came across this problem as well. Can you explain the past perfect simple past split?

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this question has been transcribed incorrectly; the mistake has already been noted by michael schwartz, here:
post41481.html#p41481

where are you getting this question? apparently there is some other source from which it is coming, since this is now the second time this incorrect version has been posted here.

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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:17 am 
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Hi,

In choice B does "what" act as a relative pronoun?
In general is it OK to use "what" to introduce a clause?

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Ghazal


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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:09 pm 
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ghazal.62 wrote:
Hi,

In choice B does "what" act as a relative pronoun?
In general is it OK to use "what" to introduce a clause?

Thanks,
Ghazal


Please see Joe's discussion of this issue in this thread: post41481.html#p41481

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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:33 pm 
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Hi,
Thanks a lot. according to Joe
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"what are now X" is a lesser-used expression that expresses the same meaning as "that are now X".
so "what" can be used in place of "that" only in "What are now X" structure? OG-12- question 50, choice (B) it is stated that "What cannot replace that", are there other exceptions to this rule?


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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:02 pm 
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ghazal.62 wrote:
Hi,
Thanks a lot. according to Joe
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"what are now X" is a lesser-used expression that expresses the same meaning as "that are now X".
so "what" can be used in place of "that" only in "What are now X" structure? OG-12- question 50, choice (B) it is stated that "What cannot replace that", are there other exceptions to this rule?


First off, what/that can be used in many different ways, so don't think you should be able to replace one with the other. Secondly, it's an odd expression, but notice that the explanation says that you use the "what" in front of an expresion and "that" afterwards.

The TV shows (that are now popular) are not what I consider entertaining.

(What are now popular) TV shows are not what I consider entertaining.

So the placement is different in #50 and partially why it is incorrect. As I said in that post:

The difference is whether they go before or after the modifier. "that" is much more versatile (and common) in life and on the GMAT.

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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:39 am 
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jlucero wrote:
ghazal.62 wrote:
Hi,
Thanks a lot. according to Joe
Quote:
"what are now X" is a lesser-used expression that expresses the same meaning as "that are now X".
so "what" can be used in place of "that" only in "What are now X" structure? OG-12- question 50, choice (B) it is stated that "What cannot replace that", are there other exceptions to this rule?


First off, what/that can be used in many different ways, so don't think you should be able to replace one with the other. Secondly, it's an odd expression, but notice that the explanation says that you use the "what" in front of an expresion and "that" afterwards.

The TV shows (that are now popular) are not what I consider entertaining.

(What are now popular) TV shows are not what I consider entertaining.

So the placement is different in #50 and partially why it is incorrect. As I said in that post:

The difference is whether they go before or after the modifier. "that" is much more versatile (and common) in life and on the GMAT.


:) very clarifying, thank you very much.


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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:27 pm 
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excellent, glad it helped.

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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:35 am 
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why C is wrong.

I see that C is grammatical and logic if C is stand alone

but

because C stand with B, C is considered the distorted meaning.

this situation is similar to

1.I like his learning English
2. I like him learning English

most of the times, gmat alway consider the 1 is correct and 2 distorting the meaning focus. but if I see 2 stand alone, 2 is correct because I consider the focus of liking is "him", not "learning"

here, I consider, B is correct and C is distorting the meaning.

is my thinking correct?


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 Post subject: Re: His studies of ice-polished rocks
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:07 am 
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thanghnvn wrote:
I see that C is grammatical and logic if C is stand alone


actually, choice (c) has several things wrong with it.

* "where there were areas" doesn't make sense; the sentence should say that ice sheets existed in those areas.
(the current wording seems to suggest that, somehow, ice sheets and "areas" were separate things that both existed in the same location.)

* the past tense "were" doesn't make sense, because the areas are still there. ("there were areas" only makes sense if the areas aren't there anymore.)

* "areas now temperate" is not a valid word order.

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