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manassingh
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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:42 pm 
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Although producer prices rose at an unexpectedly steep rate in September, analysts said that the increase resulted mostly from temporary factors and not necessarily foreshadowing that there would be a resurgence of inflation.


A. factors and not necessarily foreshadowing that there would be
B. factors and not necessarily that it foreshadowed
C. factors and did not necessarily foreshadow
D. factors, while not necessarily a foreshadowing of
E. factors, while it did not necessarily foreshadow that there would be


Can experts please explain what is wrong with D ? Basically i would like to understand the usage of while in this sentence and what makes it wrong. I selected D in the exam but it is the wrong answer. The OA is C

A and B are wrong because we usage of and not is wrong.

Many thanks in advance.
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RonPurewal
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 Post Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:36 am 
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manassingh wrote:
Although producer prices rose at an unexpectedly steep rate in September, analysts said that the increase resulted mostly from temporary factors and not necessarily foreshadowing that there would be a resurgence of inflation.


A. factors and not necessarily foreshadowing that there would be
B. factors and not necessarily that it foreshadowed
C. factors and did not necessarily foreshadow
D. factors, while not necessarily a foreshadowing of
E. factors, while it did not necessarily foreshadow that there would be


Can experts please explain what is wrong with D ? Basically i would like to understand the usage of while in this sentence and what makes it wrong. I selected D in the exam but it is the wrong answer. The OA is C

A and B are wrong because we usage of and not is wrong.

Many thanks in advance.


the main issue with that choice is that the structures that should be parallel are not parallel.

specifically, we have two claims made by the analysts about the increase:
1) resulted mostly from temporary factors
and
2) did not necessarily foreshadow...
since these are two claims that are being presented in exactly the same context (they are both claims about the described increase) and with the same priority, they should be parallel. in choice (c) they're parallel; in choice (d) they're not.

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if you have a super-general usage question, such as "how is 'while' used in general?" then this is not the ideal place to ask that question -- you are much better off with just googling the topic.
when i typed "english usage while" into google, i got the following page, among others:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While
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jp.jprasanna
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:11 pm 
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RonPurewal wrote:
manassingh wrote:
Although producer prices rose at an unexpectedly steep rate in September, analysts said that the increase resulted mostly from temporary factors and not necessarily foreshadowing that there would be a resurgence of inflation.


A. factors and not necessarily foreshadowing that there would be
B. factors and not necessarily that it foreshadowed
C. factors and did not necessarily foreshadow
D. factors, while not necessarily a foreshadowing of
E. factors, while it did not necessarily foreshadow that there would be


Can experts please explain what is wrong with D ? Basically i would like to understand the usage of while in this sentence and what makes it wrong. I selected D in the exam but it is the wrong answer. The OA is C

A and B are wrong because we usage of and not is wrong.

Many thanks in advance.


the main issue with that choice is that the structures that should be parallel are not parallel.

specifically, we have two claims made by the analysts about the increase:
1) resulted mostly from temporary factors
and
2) did not necessarily foreshadow...
since these are two claims that are being presented in exactly the same context (they are both claims about the described increase) and with the same priority, they should be parallel. in choice (c) they're parallel; in choice (d) they're not.

--

if you have a super-general usage question, such as "how is 'while' used in general?" then this is not the ideal place to ask that question -- you are much better off with just googling the topic.
when i typed "english usage while" into google, i got the following page, among others:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While


Dear Ron - Could you please let me know what's wrong with A and B?

Also is the "it" in B ambiguous? I thought the "it" clearly refers to the increase.
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RonPurewal
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:48 pm 
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jp.jprasanna wrote:
Dear Ron - Could you please let me know what's wrong with A and B?


(a) "... and (not necessarily) foreshadowing" is not parallel to anything.

(b) this sentence doesn't make sense.
if you write analysts said that x and not necessarily that y, then the meaning is ...
... analysts definitely said x
... we're not certain whether analysts said y
that's not the meaning here. the intended meaning is that the analysts actually said all of this stuff: that the increase resulted from xxxxxxxx, but that it doesn't have to mean xxxxxxx.

by contrast, here's a legitimate sentence that could use the above construction:
Laura said that she was angry at me but not that she wanted to leave me
--> Laura said that she was angry. She didn't say that she wanted to leave me (but also didn't say that she would stay, either).
Laura said that she was angry at me but did not want to leave me
--> Laura said two things: (a) she was angry, (b) she nevertheless did not want to leave the relationship.

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Also is the "it" in B ambiguous? I thought the "it" clearly refers to the increase.


the pronoun is fine.
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eybrj2
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 Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:45 pm 
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Hi, Ron.

I have a question regarding C.

I picked B although I doubted it because I thought that "that" was needed before "did not".

Isn't it possible to see C in a way that analyst said that X and did not foreshadow without "that"? ( even though it doesn't make sense;;)
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RonPurewal
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 Post Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:30 am 
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eybrj2 wrote:
( even though it doesn't make sense;;)


if it's obvious nonsense, you can ignore it.
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aps_asks
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 Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:06 am 
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Hi Ron ,

Can u please elaborate on the incorrect choices D ) and E) ??

One thing is for sure ( as you told ) that the analysts made two claims . And the other claim is not parallel in choices D) and E ).

Other than the above thing , what else do you feel is not correct ?

Please let me know your comments.
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