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tankobe
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Post subject: Re:  Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:29 am |
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RonPurewal wrote: choice e literally says that the usage of spices is 'in small quantities', which is not the proper message. this could mean that you don't use spices very often, but, when you do, you dump 14 kilos of allspice and 12 kilos of paprika in your pan.
the sentence needs to convey the message that the spices are the things of which quantities are small. choice d conveys this message well.
one could say that d isn't 100% parallel, but it's definitely more parallel than the other choices: in cooking, (noun) is used (passive voice construction); in medicinal usage, (noun) are taken (passive voice construction). (1) in my opinion, phrase such as in large number, on large scale, in small quatities and the likecan just function as adv to modify Verb rather than Noun. here are one example in PREP: 1998 saw several new ventures promoting online distance learning both at the college and graduate level, but also faculty members in large numbers began(wrong, so changed)questioning whether the computer screen was an adequate replacement for the classroom. answer key: Although 1998 saw several new ventures promoting online distance learning for both college- and graduate-level courses, it was also a year when a large number of faculty members began however, Ron, i still need you confirmation whether i am right. (2) like/like+Ving sth, Ving sth ..... is a wrong contruction.(except two doing function as adj) the right construction is like Noun, Noun......Ron, need you confirmation.
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Re: Re: Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:37 am |
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tankobe wrote: (1) in my opinion, phrase such as in large number, on large scale, in small quatities and the likecan just function as adv to modify Verb rather than Noun.
here are one example in PREP:
1998 saw several new ventures promoting online distance learning both at the college and graduate level, but also faculty members in large numbers began(wrong, so changed)questioning whether the computer screen was an adequate replacement for the classroom.
answer key: Although 1998 saw several new ventures promoting online distance learning for both college- and graduate-level courses, it was also a year when a large number of faculty members began
however, Ron, i still need you confirmation whether i am right. this looks accurate. Quote: (2) like/like+Ving sth, Ving sth ..... is a wrong contruction.(except two doing function as adj)
the right construction is like Noun, Noun......
Ron, need you confirmation. i'm sorry - i don't really understand what constructions you're talking about here. could you give a couple of examples?
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tankobe
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Post subject: Re: Re: Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:28 am |
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RonPurewal wrote: tankobe wrote: Quote: (2) like/like+Ving sth, Ving sth ..... is a wrong contruction.(except two doing function as adj)
the right construction is like Noun, Noun......
Ron, need you confirmation. i'm sorry - i don't really understand what constructions you're talking about here. could you give a couple of examples? Unlike using spices for cooking, in medicinal usage they are taken in large quantities in order to treat particular maladies.(source:GMATPrep) (A) Unlike using spices for cooking, in medicinal usage they are taken (B) Unlike spices that are used in cooking, in using spices for medicine, they are taken (C) Unlike cooking with spices, taking spices for medicinal use is done (D) In cooking, small quantities of spices are used, whereas in medicinal usage spices are taken hi, Ron! look (C), which is the contruction i was talking about----if you just said that,yes, it is a illegal contruction, next time i will kill the same option as soon as possible.
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Post subject: Re: pls clarify this Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:44 am |
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RonPurewal wrote: rschunti wrote: In choice "e" why this sentence "the usage of spices is in small quantities" does not mean that the usage of spices are always is in small quantities when cooking? well, that's exactly the problem. you need to strip down the sentence, to see exactly what single word is being described as 'in small quantities'. if you eliminate the prepositional phrase 'of spices', which just serves as an adjective in this sentence, you have the following: [i]the usage ... is in small quantities' that's wrong, because it's not the usage that's in small quantities; it's the spices themselves. (the sentence allows the possibility that the spices are used all the time - as long as the quantities are small.) you need to have a sentence that correctly indicates that the spices are what's 'in small quantities'. Ron, Please correct me if i am wrong. the option "E" is incorrect as it is gramatically wrong. in cooking, ... (1) the usage of spices is in small quantities ... (2) whereas (means but/however) in medicinal usage ... (3) they (spices) are taken ... (4) (1) is parallel to (3) but (2), with the subject "the usage of spices", is NOT logically parallel to (4) that is with the subject "Spices"
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Post subject: Re: pls clarify this Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:47 am |
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muralik.abm wrote: Ron,
Please correct me if i am wrong.
the option "E" is incorrect as it is gramatically wrong.
in cooking, ... (1)
the usage of spices is in small quantities ... (2)
whereas (means but/however)
in medicinal usage ... (3)
they (spices) are taken ... (4)
(1) is parallel to (3)
but
(2), with the subject "the usage of spices", is NOT logically parallel to (4) that is with the subject "Spices" that's a good analysis. nicely done.
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Post subject: Re: Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:55 am |
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I have a question about choice C. StaceyKoprince wrote: Not quite. The comparison is cooking vs. taking: cooking spices vs. taking spices (for medicinal use). That's okay. The issue is that we can't say "taking spices is done in large quantities..." So, as I understand the comparison in C is actually ok. But I don’t understand why "taking spices is done in large quantities..." is wrong. “Taking” is singular, so it should have “is”, right? Maybe, it’s just awkward phrasing or what? Can anyone, please, elaborate on this? Also, are there any other issues with C? Thanks
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Re: Re: Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:34 am |
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martelena wrote: I have a question about choice C. StaceyKoprince wrote: Not quite. The comparison is cooking vs. taking: cooking spices vs. taking spices (for medicinal use). That's okay. The issue is that we can't say "taking spices is done in large quantities..." So, as I understand the comparison in C is actually ok. But I don’t understand why "taking spices is done in large quantities..." is wrong. “Taking” is singular, so it should have “is”, right? Maybe, it’s just awkward phrasing or what? Can anyone, please, elaborate on this? Also, are there any other issues with C? Thanks the usage is incorrect -- in fact, i don't think you can say "verbING is done..." for any verb. even if you don't know this, though, this particular construction should still look very much inferior next to its alternative, “spices are taken...” the other problem with that answer choice is that “large quantities” doesn't seem to apply to the spices themselves, because the spices are no longer the subject of that construction. (in the correct answer -- “spices are taken in large quantities” -- it's much more clear that the large quantities are of the spices themselves.)
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Post subject: Re: Unlike using spices for cooking, in medicinal usage Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:17 am |
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Can someone tell me what's wrong with A?
(A) Unlike using spices for cooking, in medicinal usage they are taken
Unlike followed bu Noun (Gerund), moreover the comparison also seems right... "spices used for cooking " with "spices used for medicinal usage"
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Re: Unlike using spices for cooking, in medicinal usage Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:34 am |
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jp.jprasanna wrote: Can someone tell me what's wrong with A?
(A) Unlike using spices for cooking, in medicinal usage they are taken
Unlike followed bu Noun (Gerund), moreover the comparison also seems right... "spices used for cooking " with "spices used for medicinal usage"
Cheers
JP “unlike x” sets up a contrast with the subject of the following clause. so, in this sentence, you have a contrast between using... (which follows “unlike”) and they (from the following clause), which doesn't make sense. in addition, in every official sentence i've ever seen with “unlike”, the following subject comes immediately at the beginning of the clause, directly after the comma. so you've got another problem here, because there's a prepositional phrase in the way.
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