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Turning away from literary realism to write romantic stories

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krishnan.anju1987
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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:47 pm 
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Great!!! Thanks for the clarification Joe :)
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tim
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liukech
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(1) Starting with –ING, or starting with preposition + -ING (especially in + -ING)


HI RON. i'm wondering why "preposition+-ING" here does not considered a prepositional modifier?
and what exactly is "prepositional phrase"?
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divineacclivity
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Let me try simplifying the sentence to help you understand it better:
A novelist who did something, Selma became in 1909 the first X and also the first Y.

Or, A novelist who did something, Selma became X in 1909.

Or, Robin, a doctor who participated in the WHO conference as a presenter of the new technology X, became in 1909 the president of the medical association.
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divineacclivity
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Ron, very good explanation as usual. Thank you very much.
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thanks. let us know if there are any further questions on this one..

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ikuta.yamahashi
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Sorry for reply the old thread.

I find a OG explanation for sc 38 D option:
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The adverb also is redundant because it expresses the same meaning as the conjunction and.


it seems conflict with the explanation from Ron below:

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"X and Y" is normally used to indicate two different things. (if you said "the first woman and the first Swedish writer", without the "also", that would normally imply 2 different people)
"X and also Y" is normally used to bestow two descriptions on the SAME person or thing (notice that both of these descriptions are meant to describe Selma Lagerlof).


Could some instructor help to confirm the OG explanation is not quite reasonable?
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jlucero
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:46 am 
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ikuta.yamahashi wrote:
Sorry for reply the old thread.

I find a OG explanation for sc 38 D option:
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The adverb also is redundant because it expresses the same meaning as the conjunction and.


it seems conflict with the explanation from Ron below:

Quote:
"X and Y" is normally used to indicate two different things. (if you said "the first woman and the first Swedish writer", without the "also", that would normally imply 2 different people)
"X and also Y" is normally used to bestow two descriptions on the SAME person or thing (notice that both of these descriptions are meant to describe Selma Lagerlof).


Could some instructor help to confirm the OG explanation is not quite reasonable?


SC 38 is more of a problem with placement than with wording. Consider:

OK: I admired him as a person and also as a teacher.
Wrong: I admired him as a person and as also a teacher.

I think they call this redundant in the OG because the also lies within a parallel element, when it should be attached to the also.

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