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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:06 am 
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aditya8062 wrote:
plz explain why if the above rule (your explaination ) is applied ,then parallel construction is not disturbed ?
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there does appear to be an exception here. as far as i know, this is a unique exception among official problems.

still, note the following:
* there is no wrong answer choice that does have that kind of construction, so the rule still won't lead you astray;
* in cases like this, you should go ahead and pick whichever choice conforms most closely to the principles with which you're familiar. if nothing is perfect, look for whatever is closest to perfect.

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 Post subject: Re: The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close
 Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:02 pm 
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Ron,

After reading your post about "now", i realize that this problem is a lot harder than I originally thought.

Answer choice C, although wrong, has an interesting structure I'd like clarification on.

If re-written, (inserted), would it be OK?

The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction, its numbers now fivefold what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.


or does it have to be?

The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction, its numbers ARE now fivefold what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.

if the second half of the comaprison contains a verb, "what they were" for example, does the first part require a verb? In the first example, the first half of the comparison seems to imply the to be verb, "the numbers [are] now fivefold"

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 Post subject: Re: The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close
 Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:06 am 
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davetzulin wrote:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction, its numbers now fivefold what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.


this choice is grammatically ok, but it doesn't make sense -- you've created a modifier that doesn't actually modify anything.

the point of "its numbers are now fivefold..." is to create a contrast with the previous clause (which says that the bird almost went extinct at one point), not to describe/modify it. so you can't use a modifier here.

note that the correct answer does not use one, either.

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The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction, its numbers ARE now fivefold what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.


this is a run-on sentence (= complete sentence + comma + complete sentence). not ok.

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 Post subject: Re: The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close
 Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:22 am 
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RonPurewal wrote:
davetzulin wrote:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction, its numbers now fivefold what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.


this choice is grammatically ok, but it doesn't make sense -- you've created a modifier that doesn't actually modify anything.

the point of "its numbers are now fivefold..." is to create a contrast with the previous clause (which says that the bird almost went extinct at one point), not to describe/modify it. so you can't use a modifier here.

note that the correct answer does not use one, either.

Quote:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction, its numbers ARE now fivefold what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.


this is a run-on sentence (= complete sentence + comma + complete sentence). not ok.


i totally see it now, thanks again Ron


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 Post subject: Re: The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:52 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:34 am 
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RSCHUNTI wrote:
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.
A. extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than
B. extinction; its numbers are now five times more than
C. extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were
D. extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had
E. extinction, now with numbers five times greater than
This is GMATPREP question. Pls help narrow down to the correct answer. Also what are the errors in the wrong choices?


Ron,

Firstly, thank you so much for following up on every post. You and Stacy are heroes to us :D.

Now, is it okay to say:

The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now fivefold what they were when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970’s.

or is it a Run-on sentence?

It's not in the options, just wanted to clarify my concepts. Is there a thead on the usage of <number>fold?


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 Post subject: Re: The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:01 pm 
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this is not a run-on sentence, because the semicolon appropriately separates the two independent clauses. however, it is still incorrect because as far as i know <number>fold should be used as a modifier, and you are using it as a noun here..

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