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AugiTh
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Post subject: Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:00 am |
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Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow that lives only in cypress groves, almost wholly dependent on the berries of a certain type of vine that grows on cypress trees and whose coloring is completely different from all other sparrows.
1) that lives only in cypress groves, is almost wholly dependent on the berries of a certain type of vine that grows on cypress trees, and has coloring completely different from that of
2) that lives only in cypress groves, almost wholly dependent on the berries of a certain type of vine that grows on cypress trees, and whose coloring is completely different from that of
Explanation given by MGMAT:
The original sentence intends to identify a sparrow by the fact that it lives in cypress groves, eats certain berries, and has certain coloring. All these facts about the sparrow must be presented in parallel form. However, in the original sentence, these facts are presented in different forms. We need to find a choice that presents them all in parallel fashion. Moreover, "whose coloring is different from all other sparrows" is incorrect. The sparrow's coloring is different from the coloring of other sparrows, not from the sparrows themselves. We need to find a choice that makes this clear.
MGMAT says 1) above is the correct answer. However I find nothing wrong with choice 2) above. The statements (coloured in RED) in choice 2) above fits the explanation part (also coloured RED). Would be nice if you could explain why 1) is better than 2)
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rajan
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:48 am |
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1) that lives only in cypress groves, is almost wholly dependent on the berries of a certain type of vine that grows on cypress trees, and has coloring completely different from that of
2) that lives only in cypress groves, almost wholly dependent on the berries of a certain type of vine that grows on cypress trees, and whose coloring is completely different from that of
Hi Augith,
I have found another reasoning
Do you find the phrase 'almost wholly dependent on the berries of a certain type of vine that grows on cypress trees'
modifying sparrow?
To me this phrase, may modify researchers or sparrow
But if we include "is" in this phrase, making it a clause. Then, we solve the problem
that lives only in ... is almost wholly dependent on the...has coloring...
you can correct me if you find this reasoning wrong
Also, it would be great if MGMAT staff can put some light on this as well as other recent queries ( :wink: including mine, which is there with no replies for the last three days)
regards
rajan
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StaceyKoprince
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:01 pm |
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Hi, guys - traffic has been very high lately, so we have been a bit behind. We're only allocated one hour of paid time a day to answer questions, so it's tough to get through everything, even though we all end up donating an extra half hour or hour on our assigned days because we want to help you guys. So just be patient when traffic spikes - we'll get to you when we can! :)
The second answer choice listed breaks parallelism, as rajan noted. It basically says "that (a) lives, (b) almost wholly dependent and (c) whose coloring is. We don't have three parallel parts of speech there, as we do in the first answer choice listed above (that (a) lives, (b) is, and (c) has).
Remember that, for properly constructed lists, you should be able to finish the sentence with each separate item on the list. In this sentence, the list starts after the word "that":
Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow that lives only in cypress groves
Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow that almost wholly dependent on the berries of a certain type of vine that grows on cypress
Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow that whose coloring is completely different from that of all other sparrows.
The second and third sentences don't work.
_________________ Stacey Koprince Instructor Director of Online Community ManhattanGMAT
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coolvishu11
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Post subject: Re: Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:15 pm |
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how is that (a) lives, (b) is, and (c) has) in parrellel.
it should be a)is living b)is depending c) is having or
that a)lives b)depends c) has
Please can you explain
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StaceyKoprince
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Post subject: Re: Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:30 am |
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lives, is, and has are all present tense verbs - the sparrow lives (today), the sparrow is (today) and the sparrow has (today). Hence, they are parallel.
_________________ Stacey Koprince Instructor Director of Online Community ManhattanGMAT
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aritra.banerjee
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Post subject: Re: Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:13 am |
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I have a question on the structure of the first answer choice - (that (a) lives, (b) is, and (c) has).
Don't we have to repeat THAT to make sure the structure is parallel? I mean like "that lives, that is, and that has". I rejected this answer choice because I didn't see the THATs repeating, although this did sound like the right choice.
Here's an example from the Manhattan SC Guide, Parallelism, page 61, problem 14. The correct answer is "The consultant is looking for a cafe THAT has comfortable chairs and THAT provides free internet"
So based on the reasoning above, can we ignore the second THAT and re-write the sentence as "The consultant is looking for a cafe THAT has comfortable chairs and provides free internet"
Or does the repeated THAT rule applies for only phrases?
As always, your help is greatly appreciated.
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tim
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Post subject: Re: Researchers have discovered a new species of sparrow Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:18 pm |
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You can say “that x, that y, and that z” or “that x, y, and z”. If there are only two things, you can say “that x and that y” or “that x and y”. In the latter example of each pair, it is x and y (and z) that are parallel, NOT the word “that”. Again, either way is okay. Let me know if this answers your question..
_________________ Tim Sanders Manhattan GMAT Instructor
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