Hi,

I'm deliberating between taking Manhattan GMAT and Veritas. Can you tell me, by how many points does each student improve on average (after taking Manhattan GMAT)? By any chance do you have a break down by the original score? (Example: a student who started in the 70th percentile went to 85th percentile.)

I couldn't find this information anywhere on your site.

Thank you very much for your help! :)

-Cat

Hi - that's because we don't track this info!

The only valid way to make such a comparison is to compare a real GMAT before the class to a real GMAT after the class. Not enough students take a real test before a class to povide a statistically significant number.

We could calculate figures based upon how people do on our first practice test. We don't do this, though, for two reasons:
1) From a statistical standpoint, the data is meaningless - you aren't comparing apples to apples.
2) In the past, various competitors have accused various other competitors of deflating scores on initial tests (making tests very hard or using an artificially low scoring algorithm) in order to make "average score improvement" marketing claims - we don't want to get into that or have even the appearance that something like that could be going on.

I can tell you that our students' average score on the official exam after going through a full class or tutoring program is a 690* (that's the 90th percentile).

*Disclaimer: test prep companies can only gather students' scores via self-reporting -- that is, the students have to tell us their scores themselves -- and people who like their scores are more likely to share than those who don't. So average score figures are likely to be a bit inflated compared to what the number would be if we could get every single student's score.

At the end of the day, the single biggest factor in your performance is going to be you - the work you do, whatever program you attend, is going to determine your success. Sign up for whatever free events are offered for any companies in which you're interested and see what you think would be the best fit for your goals and learning style. If possible, try to attend events at which you can observe the specific teacher you would have.

Click on the "Free Events" link on the front page of our web site. You can attend a 1.5 (online) or 2 (in person) hour Preview Class, and you can also attend the first class session of one of our 9-week courses. This will allow you to see the teachers in action and learn more about how our program works.

Hi Cat1399,

I just completed the Veritas course in December and I can tell you I was quite disappointed in the program. I bought into all of the fluff on their website, most of which falls extremely short when you go through the actual program. I am now starting a Manhattan GMAT course with hopes to improve my score.

I am happy to answer any specific questions you may have, so please don't hesitate to ask.

Tim

Tim,
Thanks for the kind words. Best of luck with your class.

-Brian Lange
Instructor & Forum Moderator

Your responses have been most helpeful.

Great, we're glad to help. Let us know if you have any more questions. And it sounds like another poster, Tim, can answer direct questions about what the Veritas program was like, in his experience, so feel free to post your questions.