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SC - "The fact" in general wrong ?

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goelmohit2002
 Post subject: SC - "The fact" in general wrong ?
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:14 pm 
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Hi All,

In many places I read that "The fact" is in general wrong in GMAT....

Can someone please tell why ? Is there any grammatical/logical reason for the same?

Can someone please tell under what circumstances "The fact" is correct and when the same is wrong ?

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Mohit
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direstraits007
 Post subject: Re: SC - "The fact" in general wrong ?
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:49 am 
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goelmohit2002 wrote:
Hi All,

In many places I read that "The fact" is in general wrong in GMAT....

Can someone please tell why ? Is there any grammatical/logical reason for the same?

Can someone please tell under what circumstances "The fact" is correct and when the same is wrong ?

Thanks
Mohit


One condition when "the fact" could be right is in the usage of "Despite the fact that"...

Thanks.

GeeMate.

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RonPurewal
 Post subject: Re: SC - "The fact" in general wrong ?
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:22 am 
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goelmohit2002 wrote:
Hi All,

In many places I read that "The fact" is in general wrong in GMAT....

Can someone please tell why ? Is there any grammatical/logical reason for the same?

Can someone please tell under what circumstances "The fact" is correct and when the same is wrong ?

Thanks
Mohit


hmm. this seems a bit overly ambitious.

where have you read this? could you provide links to any sites that make this claim?
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direstraits007
 Post subject: Re: SC - "The fact" in general wrong ?
 Post Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:10 am 
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RonPurewal wrote:
goelmohit2002 wrote:
Hi All,

In many places I read that "The fact" is in general wrong in GMAT....

Can someone please tell why ? Is there any grammatical/logical reason for the same?

Can someone please tell under what circumstances "The fact" is correct and when the same is wrong ?

Thanks
Mohit


hmm. this seems a bit overly ambitious.

where have you read this? could you provide links to any sites that make this claim?


Ron,

OG says this. Please find the question #57-Option E, of the OG12 sentence correction question. OG claimed "The Fact is wordy".

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GeeMate.
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Ben Ku
 Post subject: Re: SC - "The fact" in general wrong ?
 Post Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:22 pm 
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I think that it's not necessarily wrong when a sentence uses "The fact." However, there is often a simpler way of expressing the information in the sentence. In such problems, you should see if there are additional grammatical issues with the sentence.

Geemate's example can help illustrate this:

Despite the fact that it was raining yesterday, Harry still went outside in shorts and a t-shirt to jog.

No problems with the sentence; but it can more concisely be written without "the fact":

Even though it was raining yesterday, Harry still went outside in shorts and a t-shirt to jog.

Hope that makes sense.

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