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herogmat
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Post subject: SC : astronomical phenomena  Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:04 pm |
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It seems likely that a number of astronomical phenomena, such as the formation of planetary nebulas, may be caused by the interaction where two stars orbit each other at close range.
A. may be caused by the interaction where two stars orbit each other
B. may be caused by the interaction between two stars that each orbit the other
C. are because of the interaction between two stars that orbit each other
D. are caused by the interaction of two stars where each is orbiting the other
E. are caused by the interaction of two stars orbiting each other
How to decide between choice C and E? Is there any rule for selecting between 'because of' and 'caused by'?
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ctrajaram
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:22 pm |
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A number of plural so "are" is ok
phenomena caused by is better than phenomena because of
Also "interaction of " two stars is idiomatic
Hence E
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:25 pm |
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The idiom is between x and y. You don't see that in (C).
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:06 am |
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herogmat wrote: How to decide between choice C and E? Is there any rule for selecting between 'because of' and 'caused by'? yep. "because of" can't follow a form of "to be". it has to follow a normal verb. today's delay is because of the rain --> incorrect the train was delayed because of the rain --> ok the only EXCEPTION of which i'm aware is the idiomatic form "IT IS because of X that Y VERB". for instance, it is only because of luck that Jim survived the crash.so, (c) is out, because you can't say "X are because of Y". -- @ ashish Quote: The idiom is between x and y that is indeed a correct idiom, but it is certainly also correct to write "between two X's". the distance between any two of the markers is exactly one mile. --> correct sentence
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herogmat
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:47 pm |
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Thanks Ron for your explanation.
-hg
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:06 am |
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Hi,
Why A and B are wrong? because is unidiomatic?
Thanks
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herogmat
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:04 pm |
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in a and b , 'may be' is unnecessary . please watch 'seems likely' at the begining of the sentence.
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selva.e
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:11 am |
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Agreed! herogmat
"may be" and "seems like" represents same meaning.
C - distorts the meaning. ' that' is pointing to interaction - which changes the meaning.
D - 'where' should always be used to represent location, place.
So E wins
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:03 pm |
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herogmat wrote: in a and b , 'may be' is unnecessary . please watch 'seems likely' at the begining of the sentence. yes. the construction is REDUNDANT if you include both "likely" and "may". you can only have one of those. same problem as "answer back" or "continue onward" or "added bonus" or "free gift" or... -- there is a rather lengthy treatment of choice (c) in my post above. -- Quote: D - 'where' should always be used to represent location, place. perfect.
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:53 am |
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Ron, Thanks for great explanation.
I was wondering , if C would have read
C. are caused by the interaction between two stars that orbit each other
Would it have been correct ? ( i mean , then the idiom issue wud have been secondary
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:58 am |
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NIKESH_PAHUJA wrote: Ron, Thanks for great explanation.
I was wondering , if C would have read
C. are caused by the interaction between two stars that orbit each other
Would it have been correct ? ( i mean , then the idiom issue wud have been secondary
?) this seems fine to me. "interaction between" MIGHT be regarded as redundant (vs. "interaction of", as in the correct option). there's not enough evidence to make a conclusive judgment on this issue, though, because all of the choices containing "interaction between" are also wrong for other reasons.
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:00 pm |
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RonPurewal wrote: yep.
"because of" can't follow a form of "to be". it has to follow a normal verb.
today's delay is because of the rain --> incorrect
the train was delayed because of the rain --> ok
the only EXCEPTION of which i'm aware is the idiomatic form "IT IS because of X that Y VERB". for instance, it is only because of luck that Jim survived the crash.
so, (c) is out, because you can't say "X are because of Y".
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I had few queries and hence had to restart this thread..... Hi Ron...When u say "to be" form of the verb...as per my understanding it includes "is","am","were","was","being","be" so how is the expamle ..... the train was delayed because of the rain --> correct!! or is it the case that a verb phrase "was delayed" makes the sentence correct!!! Kindly point out my mistake!!
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:03 am |
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apoorva_srivastva wrote: I had few queries and hence had to restart this thread.....
Hi Ron...When u say "to be" form of the verb...as per my understanding it includes "is","am","were","was","being","be"
so how is the expamle .....the train was delayed because of the rain --> correct!!
or is it the case that a verb phrase "was delayed" makes the sentence correct!!!
Kindly point out my mistake!! no, that's not what i was saying. "was delayed" is not a form of "to be". what i meant was that you can't precede "because" with a verb that is SOLELY a form of "to be" (not "to be" + passive-voice construction, such as the example you gave). so, "... was because of..." is automatically wrong "... was delayed because of..." is ok.
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purduesr
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:23 am |
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Quote: "because of" can't follow a form of "to be". it has to follow a normal verb.
What if 'because of' follows relative pronouns such as that, which, etc..? i.e. which because of, that because of
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tankobe
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Post subject: Re: SC : astronomical phenomena Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:01 am |
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purduesr wrote: Quote: "because of" can't follow a form of "to be". it has to follow a normal verb.
What if 'because of' follows relative pronouns such as that, which, etc..? the same question, i am not sure which one can be right? 1# it is because of ... 2# it is because of ...that.... 3# it is because .... 4# it is because ....that.... 5# it is why..... 6# that is why....
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