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9^7 - 9^2 = ? and 2^5 + 2^5 + 3^5 + 3^5 + 3^5 = ?
9^7- 9^2= 9^2(9^5-1) [ Take the Common Factor which is 9^2] = 81(81.81.9-1) [ 9^5= 9^2* 9^2*9 = 81*81*9) 2^5+2^5+3^5+3^5+3^5= 2^5(1+1)+3^5(1+1+1) [ Take Common Factor 2^5, 3^5] = 2^5.2 + 3^5.3 = 2^6+3^6 = 64+ 729 [(3^2)*3= 9^3= 9^2.9 = 81.9 = 729) Thanks |
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When you break it down like that then yes, I agree it can be done. However, the answer choices weren't given from what you had calculated. I don't remember all the choices, but for the first problem,
the answer choices were given in the bases of "9^x" And that is the same with the 2nd problem where the answer were given in "2^x + 3^x". Apparently, we have to solve for x. The answer to the second problem was "2^6 + 3^6". Not sure how you get that without a calculator... |
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Also, I guess the tip I'm wondering or if there is a pattern is how do you apply exponents to addition / subtraction problems?
7^9 - 7^7 = ? The choices typically given for the answers are 7^x where you have to apparently solve for x. Do you typically just take the common factor ? |
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Sudhan
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When you break it down like that then yes, I agree it can be done. However, the answer choices weren't given from what you had calculated. I don't remember all the choices, but for the first problem,
the answer choices were given in the bases of "9^x" And that is the same with the 2nd problem where the answer were given in "2^x + 3^x". Apparently, we have to solve for x. The answer to the second problem was "2^6 + 3^6". Not sure how you get that without a calculator... Response:- Ok. When you have to solve for x, identify the BASE. 9^x has the base 9. Try to convert the given expression into the base equivalent form. For eg, if you have to solve for x given, 9^x= 3^4, then convert 3^4 into Base 9 or 9 into base 3 form. Here, 3^2x= 3^4 -> 2x=4; x=2 As per the given problem:- 1) 9^7 - 9^2 = 9^2(9^5-1)= 9^x 9^5- 1= 9^x/9^2 9^5-1= 9^(x-2) (Moving the power of 2 in the denominator to the numerator) x-2= 5 ( to find the value for x, equating the powers of base 9 ) Hence x=7. 2) 2^5 + 2^5 + 3^5 + 3^5 + 3^5 = ? 2^5+2^5= 2.2^5= 2^1.2^5 = 2^6 (this is of the form. a^m * a^n= a^(m+n), since the base "a" is same ) 3^5+3^5+3^5= 3^5* 3^3 = 3^8 Can you check if the answer is 2^6 +3^8? Thanks |
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the answer was 2^6 + 3^6
In your problem, you said 1) 9^7 - 9^2 = 9^2(9^5-1)= 9^x 9^5- 1= 9^x/9^2 9^5-1= 9^(x-2) (Moving the power of 2 in the denominator to the numerator) x-2= 5 ( to find the value for x, equating the powers of base 9 ) Hence x=7. What happen to the "-1" when you cancel out the bases of 9? x-2 = 5 but what happen to the "-1" ? |
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the main idea is in sudhan's post, up a couple of posts from this one. you HAVE to get used to the idea that multiplying 2^n by another '2' gives 2^(n+1), because the extra '2' can be rewritten as 2^1 (whereupon the standard exponent rules apply). this just might be the most commonly applied exponent trick on the exam. they do it twice in this problem alone: 2 x 2^5 = 2^6 3 x 3^5 = 3^6 know it! |
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sudhan:
the second line here is incorrect: 3^5 + 3^5 + 3^5 is (3)(3^5), which is 3^6. the term '3^5' only appears 3 times, not 3^3 times. two weird things about this: 1) you didn't make the same mistake in the first line; 2) your first post on this thread does this exact part of the problem correctly (!) |
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Sudhan
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Thanks Ron for pointing my mistake.
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Thanks for the help. I understand what Sudhan is trying to illustrate. Could you guys try to explain the other part of the question ? What happen to the "-1"?
1) 9^7 - 9^2 = 9^2(9^5-1)= 9^x 9^5- 1= 9^x/9^2 9^5-1= 9^(x-2) (Moving the power of 2 in the denominator to the numerator) x-2= 5 ( to find the value for x, equating the powers of base 9 ) Hence x=7. Other than that part, I'm crystal clear. :) |
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Ron Purewal
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you can't get rid of that 1; it is going to stay there, unless you're forgetting some mathematical operation that you're supposed to perform. in fact, if a and b are integers, it is actually for 9^a - 9^b to be another power of 9 - or, in fact, for this to happen for any other integer other than 9. (note that if you could combine different powers in general, then there would be no such thing as a polynomial!) |
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in any case - you should go back to the original source (gmatprep), find the original problem, and post it here; we'll see what the difference is. there is absolutely no way you are going to turn 9^7 - 9^2 into a single power of 9. |
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