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Sudhan
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As per the statements 1 and 2, we can form an another triangle by joining Q and C as mentioned in the diagram. so we will have 5 triangles, RPT, RQS, SCT, SQC and PQC. To find x, we need to know the measurements of triangle SQC. Angle x= QSC which is the hyptoneuse for triangle QPC which is right triangle.
Hence C. Thanks |
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guest621
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Thanks for your response Sudhan. I think I'm a little confused as to where C is. How can I join Q & C? Where is C? Is that where S is?
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Sudhan
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I am sorry. That should be U not C as I mentioned earlier.
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Ron Purewal
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well, you've got two isosceles triangles if you take the two statements together. so, in other words, angles RQS and RSQ are the same, and angles TUS and TSU are the same. the big triangle (the one containing everything in the problem) is a right triangle, so you know that angle R and angle T add to 90 degrees. therefore, let angle r be r degrees, and let angle T be (90 - r) degrees. then angle RSQ = (180 - r)/2 = 90 - (r/2) degrees and angle TSU = (180 - (90 - r))/2 = 45 + (r/2) degrees so x = 180 - RSQ - TSU = 45 degrees. -- this is also an excellent problem for picking numbers. you can pick any number of degrees you want for angle R (as long as it's acute, of course), and then let angle T be 90 minus that number of degrees. then work your way through the problem, knowing that you can use the isosceles triangles to figure out everything else in the problem. if you do this with two or three sets of numbers, you'll notice that you get 45 degrees every time. coincidence? not likely. |
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guest612
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thank you for that explanation. that was great.
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Rey Fernandez
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This problem is insane. Things like this make me say to myself, "a person that would get a 790 would look at these two combined and come up with an answer in 30 seconds. I'm going with C."
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calgmatter
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Goal is to find x.
If we find ang(RSQ) and ang (UST), we can add them and subtract the result from 180 to get x. ang (RSQ) = y and ang (STU) = z [say] ang (RQS) = y and ang (SUT) = y [because RQS and SUT are isoceles] In RQS, ang (QRS) = 180-2y and in SUT, ang (STU)=180-2z In RPT, 90 + 180-2y + 180-2z = 180, => y+z = 135, => x=45 |
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Ron Purewal
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if you're going to use this sort of reasoning when you guess**, be sure that you're not falling for the dreaded "c trap". for information on the "c trap", check out my post dated 24th july 2:25am on this thread. as of this writing it's the last post on that thread, but of course that may change. **if you're using reasoning like this for anything other than desperate last-ditch guessing, that's a mistake. how long would someone with an 800 take? heh heh |
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