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(Possessive + Gerund) Vs (Noun + Relative Pronoun)

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rishabh26jain
 Post subject: (Possessive + Gerund) Vs (Noun + Relative Pronoun)
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:48 pm 
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Can anybody explain the difference between these two sentences.


I am irritated by people who sing loudly.
I am irritated by people's loud singing.

When do i have to use "possessive + gerund" and when do i have to use "noun + relative pronoun introducing a clause" ???
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jnelson0612
 Post subject: Re: (Possessive + Gerund) Vs (Noun + Relative Pronoun)
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:07 pm 
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rishabh26jain wrote:
Can anybody explain the difference between these two sentences.


I am irritated by people who sing loudly.
I am irritated by people's loud singing.

When do i have to use "possessive + gerund" and when do i have to use "noun + relative pronoun introducing a clause" ???


In the first sentence you are irritated by people who have a particular characteristic; in the second sentence you are irritated by the singing itself but not by the people.

I think your second sentence is kind of awkward because of the "people's"; I would just say "I am irritated by loud singing" or "I am irritated by Ken's loud singing". Here's a nice link about possessive + gerund: http://www.dianahacker.com/bedhandbook6 ... erund.html

Since either of these could be grammatically correct the issue would be more about the meaning. Just preserve the meaning of the original sentence and you should be fine.

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rishabh26jain
 Post subject: Re: (Possessive + Gerund) Vs (Noun + Relative Pronoun)
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:39 pm 
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Thanks a lot.
Point taken about "people's".
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tim
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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:32 pm 
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saurabhguptausa
 Post subject: Re: (Possessive + Gerund) Vs (Noun + Relative Pronoun)
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:44 am 
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Hi Jamie,

In the linked provided for possessive usage. There is a sentence in the last that I am not clear off:

When you choose to disregard the rule, though, make sure your meaning is clear.

In this sentence, *Though* is used with when. Although it's marked with comma, is it grammatically correct to use *though* with *when*?
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tim
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 Post Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:53 am 
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Yes.

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