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 Post subject: Negative solutions to square roots?
 Post Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:41 am 
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I'm confused by the apparently conflicting rules on GMAT regarding this topic. Why is it that Sq root of 25 cannot equal -5, but if it is part of an equation where you square root by sides, it can do?

Just wondering whether I'm missing a step in the logic?

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Tom


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 Post subject: Re: Negative solutions to square roots?
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:09 pm 
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Yes, this is a confusing aspect on the GMAT. Just remember the following:

1) If I have x^2=25, then x could be 5 or -5. Either of those numbers squared equal 25.

2) If you are asked for the square root of 25, give ONLY the positive value, 5. Negative square roots are called imaginary numbers and the GMAT has chosen not to deal with those.

Hope this clarifies things!

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 Post subject: Re: Negative solutions to square roots?
 Post Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:33 am 
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Hi Jamie,

Thanks for your response. Even I have been struggling with this concept.

Your above response clarifies it, but I have a followup question.

What if the root contains an unknown?

for instance what would be the solution for root of (d+3)^2 as per rule number 2 you mentioned above, it should be just (D+3), but i have seen such examples at many places (including Mgmat books), where we have two solutions for such expressions -(D+3) and (D+3).

It will be great if you could provide us with some clarity here..

Thanks in advance!


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 Post subject: Re: Negative solutions to square roots?
 Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:56 am 
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this is not anything "gmat-specific". it's a mathematical convention followed worldwide, with no exceptions anywhere. and, no, there's no contradiction.

the point is this: symbols / operators have to mean ONE thing. they can't be ambiguous.
so, the problem that lies before us is to define the "√" sign IN ONE WAY, just as in the case of any other symbol.
there are two choices:
1/ we could make "√n" stand for the negative value;
2/ we could make "√n" stand for the positive value.
i don't think i need to explain why #1 would be absurd here, so, accordingly, the convention is #2.

also, it's a darned good thing that symbols only mean one thing.
for instance, how long is the diagonal of a square with 1-inch sides?
"√2", you say.
you're right.
if the "√" symbol were allowed to be either positive or negative, then it would actually be impossible to answer this simple question.

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when you have an EQUATION, though -- like "x^2 = 9" -- this issue isn't in play, because there is no "√" symbol that you are trying to define uniquely. "solving" an equation means finding ALL numbers that make the statement true, so there will be two solutions to equations like these.

in any case, it's a misrepresentation to write that this is a "GMAT convention", as that would imply the possibility of finding some remote mathematical outpost, somewhere, where "√n" is allowed to stand for a negative value. not true -- the same convention is followed everywhere, for the reasons outlined above.


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 Post subject: Re: Negative solutions to square roots?
 Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:45 am 
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Thanks a lot for the explanation Ron.

Just to confirm that I got it right, I'll come back to the example I mentioned in my earlier post.

What will be the possible solution/s for √(d+3)^2 ?

Since, this is not an equation would there be just one solution i.e. D+3?

I am sorry if this is a dim question, but I want to be completely sure about this concept.

Thanks a lot for your time.


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