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 Post subject: Re: Minivans carry as many as seven passengers
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:42 am 
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RonPurewal wrote:
alexei600 wrote:
Dear Instructor,
For "D" is it correct to conclude that there are to modifiers that are connected with a comma. Describing the same noun "minivans"
This connection type is considered wrong on GMAT?
Thanks


no, it's possible to have two modifiers, connected by a comma, modifying the same noun. (<-- look, i just did it)
here's an official problem in which it happens:
the-anasazi-settlements-at-chaco-canyon-were-built-t2236.html

the main problem with choice (d) is the fact that “carrying...” is written as a modifier, so that there is an implication that it describes the following clause. i.e., the implication in choice (d) is that those comparative facts about minivans vs. other vehicles are only true when the minivans are actually "carrying up to seven passengers".

these facts -- the fact that minivans carry up to seven passengers, and the fact that they are X and Y and Z in comparison to other vehicles -- should be in parallel (as they are in the correct answer), since they are separate facts, of the same type, of equal priority.

Hi, Ron, i have a question about the v-ing here.
in option D,the sentence is constructed in such kind of construction:
Subject,v-ing,v-ed,Verb1 Verb2 ...
however, in some of ur other posts, i learned that when Verbing is inserted between the subject and the verb of the sentence, the Verbing is actually functioning as a noun modifier and modifies the subject the of sentence;i think it doesn't function as an adverbial modifier and modifies the whole clause.

am i thinking right?please clarify me and thank you very much!


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 Post subject: Re: Minivans carry as many as seven passengers
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:46 am 
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Ron said to us that we should learn from correct answer.

I quite understand that oa is A.

in oa A, "compared" modify subject of preceding clause, a far noun. Normally, do-ed modifies nearest noun. But in this correct answer, do-ed can modify far noun/subject of preceding clause.

so, in some cases, logic forces us to accept that do-ed can modifies a far noun and the rule that do-ed mofified nearest noun is not absolute.


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 Post subject: Re: Minivans carry as many as seven passengers
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:00 pm 
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zhongshanlh wrote:
i think it doesn't function as an adverbial modifier and modifies the whole clause.


something that modifies the whole clause IS an adverbial modifier. am i reading your question correctly?

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 Post subject: Re: Minivans carry as many as seven passengers
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:05 pm 
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thanghnvn wrote:
Ron said to us that we should learn from correct answer.

I quite understand that oa is A.

in oa A, "compared" modify subject of preceding clause, a far noun. Normally, do-ed modifies nearest noun. But in this correct answer, do-ed can modify far noun/subject of preceding clause.

so, in some cases, logic forces us to accept that do-ed can modifies a far noun and the rule that do-ed mofified nearest noun is not absolute.


it actually has to do with parallelism. consider that the sentence "splits" into two parallel tracks after the word "minivans"; then "compared..." effectively touches "minivans". let me know if this makes sense; if not i can go into more detail..

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