Register    Login    Search    Rss Feeds

 Page 1 of 1 [ 9 posts ] 



 
Author Message
 Post subject: MGMAT Exam Question (2)
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:26 pm 
Some scientists suggest the moon had been formed out of part of the Earth, which was dislodged perhaps by a meteor.

A) the moon had been formed out of part of the Earth, which was dislodged perhaps
B) that the moon was formed from part of the Earth that had perhaps been dislodged
C) that part of the Earth formed the moon, which was dislodged perhaps
D) the moon was formed out of part of the Earth, having perhaps been dislodged
E) that the moon had been formed from part of the Earth, which perhaps had been dislodged

According to the explanation, the correct answer is B. How can this be true if that (and which) refer to the noun immediately preceding it? Does "B" say that the Earth had been dislodged?

Thanks for all your help


Top 
 Post subject:
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:18 pm 
The orginial sentence has the following problems -

1) relative pronoun 'which'points to the Earth rather it should point to the part of the earth that formed the moon.
2) "Some scientists suggest the moon had been formed out of part of the Earth" is the combination of two independent clauses "Some scientists suggest" and "the moon had been formed out of part of the Earth". In all it is a Run-on sentence so it needs a conjunction such as 'that'.

So from (2) A & D are out

(C) 'which' modifies 'moon' though it should modify part of the earth
(E) both the clauses are in past perfect. Unable to indentify which event followed the other.

While (B) corrects the above problems -

1) Correct Verb tense - First the part of the earth had been dislodged and then the moon was formed.
2) 'that' points correctly to the 'part of the earth'

Hope it answers your question.

Guest79


Top 
 Post subject:
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:50 pm 
Offline
ManhattanGMAT Staff


Posts: 6077
Location: San Francisco
Yes, "which" points directly to the preceding noun. "That" can refer only to a preceding noun but can also refer to a phrase or clause. "That" has a lot more flexibility. For instance, look earlier in this same sentence to "Some scientists suggest that..." The word right before "that" is a verb.

So just remember that "that" can be a noun modifier but doesn't have to be, while "which" has to be.

_________________
Stacey Koprince
Instructor
Director of Online Community
ManhattanGMAT


Top 
 Post subject: Re: MGMAT Exam Question (2)
 Post Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:45 pm 
Offline
Course Students


Posts: 117
Yes, "which" points directly to the preceding noun.

Referring to the above statement -

Stacey, Can you please explain if this is an absolute rule about which? I heard somewhere in my MGMAT class that sometimes in rare cases we really need find out if which is modifying the noun right before the comma or not.

For ex:

Priyanka published a book about women, which had long stories and illustrations.

In this sentence 'which' seems to modify book and not the noun 'women' (which is part of the prepositional phrase - "about women")

I have seen a question before where the right answer had a structure similar to the one above and the modifier starting with which was not modifying the noun right before the comma. Also, I think Ron mentioned in one of his video lectures that we really need to look at the context of the sentence sometimes ( in rare cases) to see what which is modifying, although in most cases it's the noun before the comma.


Top 
 Post subject: Re: MGMAT Exam Question (2)
 Post Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:06 pm 
Offline
ManhattanGMAT Staff


Posts: 1857
Check out this thread, which is all about the "which rule" and its exceptions: the-which-rule-t7033.html

_________________
Jamie Nelson
ManhattanGMAT Instructor


Top 
 Post subject: Re: MGMAT Exam Question (2)
 Post Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:33 pm 
Offline
Course Students


Posts: 117
thanks!


Top 
 Post subject: Re: MGMAT Exam Question (2)
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:50 pm 
Offline
ManhattanGMAT Staff


Posts: 2242
Location: Southwest Airlines, seat 21C
:)

_________________
Tim Sanders
Manhattan GMAT Instructor


Top 
 Post subject: Re: MGMAT Exam Question (2)
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:39 pm 
Offline
Course Students


Posts: 4
Stacey: Can you comment on the verb tense in the above question?
How do you eleiminate based on that?


Top 
 Post subject: Re: MGMAT Exam Question (2)
 Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:23 pm 
Offline
ManhattanGMAT Staff


Posts: 2242
Location: Southwest Airlines, seat 21C
If you set up a timeline of what happened, you realize that the part of the Earth became dislodged, and then the moon formed from that part sometime thereafter. So the dislodging needs to use the past perfect, while formation of the moon is simple past..

_________________
Tim Sanders
Manhattan GMAT Instructor


Top 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
 Page 1 of 1 [ 9 posts ] 





Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: