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Post subject: Many teenagers undergo stress, but results of a recent study Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:53 am |
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Please help with the following question from GMAT Prep 1:
Many teenagers undergo stress, but results of a recent study indicate that the patterns of stress that girls experience are more likely to result in depression than are those that boys experience.
(A) are those that boys experience
(B) what boys experience
(C) boys' experience would
(D) boys' stress patterns do
(E) stress patterns of boys
I chose D because the stress patterns of girls and boys are compared
followed by verb "DO" to parallel with result.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:37 am |
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gmat_s
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Post subject: GMAT Prep Test 1 SC Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:53 am |
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Re-reading the question at my own pace :-/
I think ans can be A.
Construction:
indicate that X....are more likely than Y
X= the patterns of stress that girls experience
Y = are those that boys experience
Your ans of B suggests as if you are looking for parallel construction:
"that girls experience"
"that " is restrictive pronoun needed to describe the patterns of boys.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:51 am |
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It could be B or E . I am more inclined towards E.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:14 am |
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Tough one. I like A best.
The sentence is making a comparison, so we have to make sure the comparison makes logical sense and is parallel.
Part of the comparison is girls' stress patterns, so I need to mention stress patterns of boys. B and C are out. (A uses the pronoun "those" to refer to stress patterns, so it stays in.)
Also, I'm specifically comparing how likely the two different patterns are to result in depression- it's not just a straight comparison between different patterns, but the effects of the different patterns - so the comparison needs to indicate this too. This is likely going to be accomplished via a verb, so E is out.
That leaves me with A and D. A uses the same verb in the same tense ("are") while D introduces a new verb ("do"). A also follows a similar format for the rest: "patterns of stress that girls experience" and "those that boys experience." D doesn't. A is more parallel, so that's what I would choose.
_________________ Stacey Koprince Instructor Director of Online Community ManhattanGMAT
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gmat_s
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:28 am |
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Thanks Stacey!
Your explanation is thorough as always.
Its really appreciated!
OA is A
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:50 am |
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Hi Stacey,
his plays are produced more often than those of any other play writer ..
his plays are produced more often than ARE those of any other play writer...
between these two...which one is correct ???
I have noticed that at many places the first construction is makred as the OA... please help....thanks
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kramacha
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:40 am |
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Stacey,
I would expect something like
more likely to result in depression than those that boys experience.
or
that the patterns of stress that girls experience are more likely to result in depression than the patterns of stress that boys experience
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:29 pm |
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kramacha wrote: Stacey,
I would expect something like more likely to result in depression than those that boys experience.
or
that the patterns of stress that girls experience are more likely to result in depression than the patterns of stress that boys experience
nope, you need the helping verb 'are'.
without 'are', you have the following AMBIGUITY:
(meaning 1) more likely to result in depression than are stress patterns typical of boys (the intended meaning)
(meaning 2) more likely to result in depression than in stress patterns typical of boys
including 'are' kills the ambiguity by specifying meaning number 1.
in general, if you notice answer choices that differ in their inclusion/exclusion of some little helping word - especially a helping verb - check for ambiguity if you remove the helping word. remember only to check for semantic ambiguity (i.e., the presence of 2 possible meanings, regardless of which is more expected or reasonable). DO NOT use 'common sense' to resolve ambiguities; if a sentence is ambiguous, it's ambiguous.
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Post subject: Re: Many teenagers undergo stress, but results of a recent study Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:38 am |
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Dear experts,
(B) can I say that 'what' is unidiomatic on GMAT?
Update:
I actually tried understand this answer choice, but couldn't put my fingers on it. Does this answer choice have a dual meaning without verb 'are'(as Ron mentioned above) or is it just a problem with 'what'?
Could you please break this one down in detail?
Appreciate your coaching, as always!
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Re: Many teenagers undergo stress, but results of a recent study Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:31 am |
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daurentur wrote: Dear experts,
(B) can I say that 'what' is unidiomatic on GMAT?
Update:
I actually tried understand this answer choice, but couldn't put my fingers on it. Does this answer choice have a dual meaning without verb 'are'(as Ron mentioned above) or is it just a problem with 'what'?
Could you please break this one down in detail?
Appreciate your coaching, as always! both problems exist. without the helping verb, this choice has the ambiguity that i've described above. as far as “what” -- this construction is idiomatically ok: what + SUBJ + VERB is a perfectly good way to generalize the object of that particular verb. for instance, what you eat means, basically, “the things that you eat”. the reason why this construction is problematic has nothing to do with idioms; it's problematic because the construction is way too general and doesn't adequately specify that we are talking about stress patterns. in other words, “what boys experience” actually means everything that boys experience -- so, with that construction, the sentence doesn't adequately convey a proper comparison.
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Post subject: Re: Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:37 am |
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StaceyKoprince wrote: Tough one. I like A best.
The sentence is making a comparison, so we have to make sure the comparison makes logical sense and is parallel.
Part of the comparison is girls' stress patterns, so I need to mention stress patterns of boys. B and C are out. (A uses the pronoun "those" to refer to stress patterns, so it stays in.)
Also, I'm specifically comparing how likely the two different patterns are to result in depression- it's not just a straight comparison between different patterns, but the effects of the different patterns - so the comparison needs to indicate this too. This is likely going to be accomplished via a verb, so E is out.
That leaves me with A and D. A uses the same verb in the same tense ("are") while D introduces a new verb ("do"). A also follows a similar format for the rest: "patterns of stress that girls experience" and "those that boys experience." D doesn't. A is more parallel, so that's what I would choose. i eliminated D because I figured "Do" would be weird to stand for a linking verb. i am tired as they do i run like they do is that even a rule?
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Post subject: Re: Many teenagers undergo stress, but results of a recent study Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:50 am |
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NIce explaination stacy, Thanks,its really a confusing one. davetzulin wrote: StaceyKoprince wrote: Tough one. I like A best.
The sentence is making a comparison, so we have to make sure the comparison makes logical sense and is parallel.
Part of the comparison is girls' stress patterns, so I need to mention stress patterns of boys. B and C are out. (A uses the pronoun "those" to refer to stress patterns, so it stays in.)
Also, I'm specifically comparing how likely the two different patterns are to result in depression- it's not just a straight comparison between different patterns, but the effects of the different patterns - so the comparison needs to indicate this too. This is likely going to be accomplished via a verb, so E is out.
That leaves me with A and D. A uses the same verb in the same tense ("are") while D introduces a new verb ("do"). A also follows a similar format for the rest: "patterns of stress that girls experience" and "those that boys experience." D doesn't. A is more parallel, so that's what I would choose. i eliminated D because I figured "Do" would be weird to stand for a linking verb. i am tired as they do i run like they do is that even a rule?
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