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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has  Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:26 pm |
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herogmat wrote: Agree. Thanks for the reply. glad it helped
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:52 am |
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(C) As in the case of any star of similar mass, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted, it will expand into a red giant, and eventually ejecting
reference[a sentence excerpted from OG key]:
The phrase the more the children should be completed by a parallel phrase that begins with a comparative adjective and a noun phrase, as in the greater their... advantage.
Ron, why the "as in" is ok in reference sentence but not in C?
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:10 am |
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tankobe wrote: (C) As in the case of any star of similar mass, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted, it will expand into a red giant, and eventually ejecting
reference[a sentence excerpted from OG key]:
The phrase the more the children should be completed by a parallel phrase that begins with a comparative adjective and a noun phrase, as in the greater their... advantage.
Ron, why the "as in" is ok in reference sentence but not in C? i don't think there's any problem with "as in" and that choice -- it looks perfectly fine to me. there are other errors in that choice, most noticeably the pronoun "it" (which is meant to refer to the sun, but can't because the noun "sun" never appears by itself) and the rather blatant lack of parallelism ("will expand ... and eventually ejecting"). not everything in a wrong answer choice is wrong!
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:39 pm |
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Ron,
Can we eliminate option C,and D just on the basis of the comparison mismatch?
As in the case of any star of similar mass, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted .....
Here As is comparing Any Star of similar mass with Hydrogen. Straightforward It can be eliminated..Is the reasoning Right?
D) As any star of similar mass would, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted...
Here As is comparing Any Star of similar mass with Hydrogen. Straightforward It can be eliminated..Is the reasoning Right?
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:03 am |
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In choice A:
(A) Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has exhausted the hydrogen in its core, it expands into a red giant, eventually ejecting
1. I would like to know whether the clause "it expands into a red giant, eventually ejecting" is correct. Is the structure "eventually ejecting" legitimate?
2. What is the difference in meaning between "it expands into a red giant, eventually ejecting" and "it expands into a red giant and eventually ejects"?
Thanks.
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:14 pm |
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Ron Can u please comment on this?? Thanks Vijay vijayjakhotia wrote: Ron,
Can we eliminate option C,and D just on the basis of the comparison mismatch?
As in the case of any star of similar mass, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted .....
Here As is comparing Any Star of similar mass with Hydrogen. Straightforward It can be eliminated..Is the reasoning Right?
D) As any star of similar mass would, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted...
Here As is comparing Any Star of similar mass with Hydrogen. Straightforward It can be eliminated..Is the reasoning Right?
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:19 am |
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vijayjakhotia wrote: Ron,
Can we eliminate option C,and D just on the basis of the comparison mismatch?
As in the case of any star of similar mass, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted .....
Here As is comparing Any Star of similar mass with Hydrogen. Straightforward It can be eliminated..Is the reasoning Right?
not in this case, because there is not a direct comparison between nouns. this sentence says “as in the case of…”, a construction that allows much greater latitude in terms of comparisons. (fortunately, there are a couple of other significant problems with that choice, as discussed in earlier posts.) Quote: D) As any star of similar mass would, once the hydrogen in the Sun's core is exhausted...
Here As is comparing Any Star of similar mass with Hydrogen. Straightforward It can be eliminated..Is the reasoning Right?
this one, yes
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:24 am |
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trang.kieu.phung wrote: In choice A:
(A) Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has exhausted the hydrogen in its core, it expands into a red giant, eventually ejecting
1. I would like to know whether the clause "it expands into a red giant, eventually ejecting" is correct. Is the structure "eventually ejecting" legitimate?
2. What is the difference in meaning between "it expands into a red giant, eventually ejecting" and "it expands into a red giant and eventually ejects"?
Thanks. this post details the "comma -ing" structure: post30766.html#p30766check out that post and then apply what it says here -- you'll notice that neither of the stated conditions is a good fit for the meaning of this sentence. the second version is better, because this is just a sequence of two events that don't have any apparently necessary relationship (much like “we went to the restaurant and then drove to the club”). such sequences are normally indicated by parallel structures. notice that neither of the choices you're analyzing is actually the correct answer, but that the correct answer also contains a parallel structure (“it will expand ... and eventually eject ...”)
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:27 am |
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vijayjakhotia wrote: Ron
Can u please comment on this??
Thanks
Vijay don't do this -- i.e., don't post a message that says "please answer my question". this is called "bumping" the thread; it brings the thread up to the most recent position in the folder. the problem, of course -- besides the fact that "reminder posts" are obnoxious, rude, and unprofessional -- is that we answer the posts strictly in order from oldest to newest. therefore, if you post a message, with no content, that says "please answer this post", then you are moving the thread to the LAST place in the queue.please be patient -- we will get to all of the threads. if you make posts like this one, you're just making yourself wait longer. thanks.
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:35 pm |
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in choice E:
As would be the case with any star of similar mass, once the Sun exhausts the hydrogen in its
core, it will expand into a red giant and eventually eject.
(1)is "would" a problem here for it does not accord with "will"?
(2)or is "as would be the case" an idiom that can be
interpreted as a subjunctive mood or a conjectural mood?
wait for your reply.
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Post subject: Re: Like any star of similar mass would do, once the Sun has Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:25 am |
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vivi____he wrote: in choice E:
As would be the case with any star of similar mass, once the Sun exhausts the hydrogen in its
core, it will expand into a red giant and eventually eject.
(1)is "would" a problem here for it does not accord with "will"?
(2)or is "as would be the case" an idiom that can be
interpreted as a subjunctive mood or a conjectural mood?
wait for your reply. the "would" here is the hypothetical form of "would". that's the second one listed here: post45300.html#p45300this consideration doesn't extend to the "will" in this sentence, since that part of the sentence is talking about something that is definitely going to happen. the hypothetical "any other" star, though, is just that -- hypothetical -- so "would" is used.
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