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Post subject: In a certain senior class, 72 percent of Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:09 am |
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In a certain senior class, 72 percent of the male students and 80 percent of the female students have applied to college. What fraction of the students in the senior class are male?
(1) There are 840 students in the senior class
(2) 75 percent of the students in the senior class have applied to college.
I'm trying to solve it using the double set matrix approach, will appreciate an example
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:36 pm |
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[Edited by Stacey b/c Ron pointed out that we can of course solve this via double-set matrix! See, even we make mistakes sometimes... :)]
This is one way to solve this, using weighted averages:
72% male apply; therefore 28% male don't apply
80% female apply; therefore 20% female don't apply
I want to know what fraction of students is male. I could get this one of two ways:
a) the actual number of males in the class and the actual total number of students in the class (# male / # total)
b) the proportion or percentage of male students to female (which, together, comprise the total - so I don't necessarily need to know the actual numbers in order to know a percentage)
(1) 840 = m + f. I don't know actual numbers for male and female. I also don't know proportions for male / female. Can't do it.
(2) 75% of all students (m+f) have applied. Don't know actual numbers for male and female. I can, however, figure out proportions. If 72% of males apply, and 80% of females apply, and 75% overall apply, then I can figure out the proportion of males to females in the class - this is a weighted average problem.
Here's how: 8 percentage points separate the males and the females (80-72). The overall average, 75, is 3 points away from the males (at 72) and 5 points away from the females (at 80). This means there are more males than females and, further, it tells me the actual proportion. Of every 8 students, 5 are male and 3 are female. (If there were equal numbers of males and females, the overall average would be 76%, or 4 points away from each. Because the overall number is closer to the male percentage, the males have more of an impact on the final number. Further, the proportion of males to females is equal to that skew - a 50/50 weighting would mean that each group "pulled" the average by 4 points. Since the males "pulled" the average one point closer to them, they have a weighting of 5, and the females lose that point for a weighting of 3.)
So, 5/8 of the students are male and 3/8 are female.
This is another way to solve this, using double-set matrix:
----------------male-------fem-------t
apply----------.72x-------.8y-------
not apply-----.28x--------.2y------
t----------------x-----------y-------x+y
The above is from the question stem
Statement 1:
----------------male-------fem-------t
apply----------.72x-------.8y-------
not apply-----.28x--------.2y------
t----------------x-----------y-------840
Can't use the above to find out x.
Statement 2:
----------------male-------fem-------t
apply----------.72x-------.8y-------.75(x+y)
not apply-----.28x--------.2y------.25(x+y)
t----------------x-----------y-------x+y
.72x + .8y = .75(x+y) = .75x + .75y
I'm trying to find x. I can simplify the equation to .5y = .3x or 5y = 3x. I would get the same proportion if I wrote out and simplified the second equation (from the "not apply" line). So, basically, I'd need to multiply y (females) by 5 and x (males) by 3 to make them equal. This means that x (male) is bigger than y (female) and that they are in the proportion 5 males to 3 females.
The question is what proportion of all students are males, and I know that for every 5 males there are 3 females. 5+3 = 8 total, so 5/8 of the students are males. Sufficient.
_________________ Stacey Koprince Instructor Director of Online Community ManhattanGMAT
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Post subject: Re: In a certain senior class, 72 percent of Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:09 pm |
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Post subject: Re: In a certain senior class, 72 percent of Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:34 am |
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nikhil.mysore wrote: Very good explanation sweet.
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ameya
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Post subject: Re: In a certain senior class, 72 percent of Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:12 am |
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This out of the world classic. Never had thought about weighted averages here. I struggled on this Q and consequently solved incorrectly. Great explanation Stacey! Kudos.
Ameya
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RonPurewal
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Post subject: Re: In a certain senior class, 72 percent of Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:43 am |
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stacey is pretty darn smart.
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domgluck
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Post subject: Re: In a certain senior class, 72 percent of Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:14 pm |
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Initially I got this wrong, but when I went back and looked at it I immediately started drawing a matrix. I must have not seen the puzzle pieces correctly.
I go with Ron's method. If you have the right pieces its very easy to solve the problem using the matrix, but it's good to have multiple routes to take.
male/female, apply/not apply
draw matrix exactly as stacey has #1, cant find x no good #2, use to make equation -->
.72x + .80y = .75(x+y) .72x + .80y = .75x + .75y .05y = .03x 5y = 3x 5/3 = x/y 5/8 = x/(x+y) looking at x relative to whole
so #2 is good
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