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 Post subject: A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:34 am 
Source : GmatPrep Test 1

A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but university and United States Department of Agriculture researchers who allowed growers to use it free of charge.

A) produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

B) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

C) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, as was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by

D) not produced by profit-motivated seed companies, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but was produced by

E) not produced by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by


I could eliminate A, B and E because in
A) not by X, but Y are not parallel
B) same issue as above
E) not produced by X, but Y are not parallel

Why is C a better construct than D ? Is there a quick way to identify the difference between C & D?


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 Post subject: my explanation
 Post Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:22 am 
In Choice "C" Not "X" but "Y" both X="by profit-motivated seed companies......" and Y="by........" are parallel.
C) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, as was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by

In Choice "D" this parallelism is violated as X="produces by...." but Y="was produces by..."
D) not produced by profit-motivated seed companies, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but was produced by

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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:55 am 
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the major reason for eliminating choice d is its improper use of the word 'which'.

the gmat follows a hard and fast rule about the use of relative pronouns (such as which) when set off by commas: they must have a noun referent, which must be located immediately prior to the comma. the gmat does not allow 'which' to refer to an entire clause (as it attempts to do here), much to the chagrin of common english speakers who use 'which' in this way on a regular basis.**

in other words: the gmat's rules for 'which' would require it to stand for 'seed companies' in choice d. not only is that logically absurd, but it doesn't even exhibit proper subject-verb agreement ('companies' doesn't agree with 'was').

note by contrast, that the word 'as' is properly used with entire clauses, as is done in choice c.

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there's also the more minor, but by no means negligible, issue of wordiness: choice c ('not by X but by Y') makes the parallel construction much more concise than does choice d ('was not produced by X but was produced by Y').

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**nb: the gmat violates this rule several times in its discussion of problems, but never violates it in the problems themselves. if you look, you'll notice that the discussion sections seem to be held to much lower standards of grammar than the actual problems; therefore, only pay attention to the gmat's rules of grammar as exhibited in actual problems, not in peripheral discussion.


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 Post subject: Re: A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:59 pm 
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sheetal wrote:
Source : GmatPrep Test 1

A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but university and United States Department of Agriculture researchers who allowed growers to use it free of charge.

A) produced not by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

B) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but

C) produced not by profit-motivated seed companies, as was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by

D) not produced by profit-motivated seed companies, which was the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but was produced by

E) not produced by seed companies who have been motivated by profit, the case with most genetically modified crops previously approved for commercial use, but by


I could eliminate A, B and E because in
A) not by X, but Y are not parallel
B) same issue as above
E) not produced by X, but Y are not parallel

Why is C a better construct than D ? Is there a quick way to identify the difference between C & D?


I think you are wrong with E. it is paralell. but the problem should be that companies can't be modified by who, and also C is more precise compared with E.


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 Post subject: Re: A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:56 am 
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shakira.mei.xi wrote:
I think you are wrong with E. it is paralell. but the problem should be that companies can't be modified by who, and also C is more precise compared with E.


nope -- (e) is not parallel. “produced by xxxxx” and “by xxxxx” are not parallel constructions.
note that the correct answer puts the construction not xxxxx but xxxxx after the word “produced”, so as to create a properly parallel construction involving two prepositional phrases with “by”.

you are correct, however, that “who” may not be used to modify an impersonal entity such as a company.


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 Post subject: Re: A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:24 pm 
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RonPurewal wrote:
shakira.mei.xi wrote:
I think you are wrong with E. it is paralell. but the problem should be that companies can't be modified by who, and also C is more precise compared with E.


nope -- (e) is not parallel. “produced by xxxxx” and “by xxxxx” are not parallel constructions.
note that the correct answer puts the construction not xxxxx but xxxxx after the word “produced”, so as to create a properly parallel construction involving two prepositional phrases with “by”.

you are correct, however, that “who” may not be used to modify an impersonal entity such as a company.


Ron, Thank you very much.


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 Post subject: Re: A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:51 am 
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sure.


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 Post subject: Re: A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not
 Post Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:22 pm 
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Manhantan experts, members, pls, help

in which case... (a clause)

as the case with (something)

are correct when the two phrase go after a clause.

I see two above phrases in gmatprep questions.

is my thinking correct?

anyone can give me an example for each phrase?

thank all of you.


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 Post subject: Re: A new genetically engineered papaya was produced not
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:00 pm 
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of course i won't give you examples! if you "see [sic] two above phrases in gmatprep questions" that means you already have examples! am i missing something here? i'm actually counting on you to provide examples so i can help you assess whether your thinking is correct on this problem..

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